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China in Asia (Article): Fraudulent Censorship Is Rampant At Three Largest China Expat Forums - Do not Trust Job Ad Scams At TheBeijinger.com, Echinacities.com & ESLCafe...What if I told you that if you have $1,000, there are Americans and Canadians who will let you use their website to fish for fraud victims for the scams they already know you operate? How do they know? Because their own users catch the scammers in the act and then post warnings in the forum sections for other expats! But these warning posts get deleted and and if you try to warn people again, you are banished and blocked from the website! Yes, indeed I am serious and here is the proof http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?t=644914 When he forum moderators get caught doing this, they will stop deleting for about a week but they will either "lock" the thread, or move it from page 1 to page 23 where nobody will ever think to even look. This is a common tactic at Dave's ESL as you can see at the above link. We spent six months investigating these three web sites after seven forum users complained that China ESL was basically buying deletions of scam warnings with advertising dollars. We were skeptical at first because the three forums in question are owned and operated by Americans, Dave Sperling, Michael Wester, and Canadian George Xu. Had the site been Chinese owned, we would not have doubted it for a New York second. We had already caught Echinacities selling resumes to known identity thievs as was explained fairly well here: http;//chinascamwatch.wordpress.com So now friends, after we did some digging we discover the following which is a bit .... a) disturbing, b) unethical, c) illegal d) despicable, and e) all of the above: [][][][][] A full 50% of the job ads posted at these three web sites are from blacklisted employers going as far back as 2010. [][][][][] 35% of the job ads posted on these websites are not genuine jobs but "magnet ads" designed to collect new resumes [][][][][] 44% of the job ad employers advise their China job applicants to violate Chinese law and come work in China illegally without a work visa (Z visa) and risk being arrested, jailed, fined, and deported. Now if you are good at math, calculate the average school/recruiter advertiser will spend an average of $3,000 a year buying advertising space at these web sites and there are over 300 of them every month. No do you understand why they don't care whether YOU the visitor to their portal gets ripped off for $500 or $50,000 ??? So what is the solution. Here is what someone at the above link "Mad As Hell" has suggested... 1) Boycott those three web sites and buy nothing from their advertisers in protest 2) Post your protests about their unethical censorship right on their forum pages 3) Send the link to this article to every teacher and China expat you know 4) Join up with the new China scam baiter club just recently formed at http://chinascambaiterclub.wordpress.com 5) Tell this story at every ESL and TEFL forum you happen to visit and help keep others from being screwed If you're going to get banned for anything on a public forum it should not be for telling the truth...

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